As far as most Westerners are concerned, there is no greater evil than tobacco, especially where athletic prowess is concerned.
An issue of Tobacco & the Elderly Notes from 1998 examplifies the anti-tobacco stance with its feature which deplores past sports stars advertising cigarettes. Yet, my post yesterday showed that a number of top athletes enjoyed their smokes and still went on to break records during their satisfying careers.
I wonder what the editors of Tobacco & the Elderly Notes would think of the increasing drug use prevalent among high school, college and professional athletes? Is that a better proposition than tobacco?
I used to support the legalisation of cannabis until I saw what it did to a friend of ours. He never quite recovered from his use of skunk during the 1990s. What started out as recreational led to divorce and estrangement from his child, by now an adolescent. Even now that he’s gone straight, he’s still irritable, excitable and paranoid.
For those my age and older, it’s impossible to get the old strains which are now so last century. Every variety of cannabis on the market today has some psychotropic element to it. It’s no longer a case of a happy or sleepy high. It’s affecting people like our friend adversely.
Furthermore, use of other drugs, including K2, is on the increase by athletes.
College athletes and marijuana
Recreator has a series of excellent graphics and NCAA statistics which everyone should have a look at.
It will surprise many.
The survey is taken every four years. Results published are from the 2013 survey.
More than 20% of athletes smoked dope in 2005 (21%), 2009 (23%) and 2013 (22%).
One quarter of male athletes smoked it in 2013 versus 17% of women athletes.
Use by NCAA division statistics are as follows: Division I is 16%; Division II is 20% and Division III shows a significant 29%.
Statistics for marijuana use by sport revealed that 46% of lacrosse players smoke. Next are swimming (32%) and soccer (31%), followed by football (23%) and, finally, basketball (19%).
A 2012 article in Time on American football players states (emphases mine):
What is surprising is the frequency, proliferation and seeming constancy of the confessed drug use. ESPN The Magazine‘s Sam Alipour begins with a detailed scene of an Oregon football player, fresh off this year’s Rose Bowl victory, kicking back by rolling a joint. The unnamed player (there are many unnamed sources in the article, which isn’t surprising given the content) estimates that about half of the team smokes marijuana on a regular basis. The magazine also cited interviews with 19 current and former Ducks going back a decade and a half who put that number at between 40 and 60%.
The article states that, even more unusual is that, generally speaking, some football players get high before practice — or a game.
It used to be that such activity could harm one’s chances for a professional career. Today, it’s less of a problem:
For many athletes, the only downside to being caught using marijuana is a drop in their draft status, but there is an interesting catch-22 in which NFL scouts and executives assume that because so many athletes have used marijuana, they don’t believe those who claim they haven’t.
An article on draft picks on NFL.com, also from 2012, looked at the same ESPN Magazine report that Time did. We learn the following:
Four out of 10 draft-eligible prospects from the 2012 class failed at least one school-administered drug test for marijuana; two in 10 failed multiple times, per a CBS Sports report from April.
“About 70 percent” of prospects at the combine admitted to using marijuana, per an ESPN report.
NFL players
The NFL.com article considered the ESPN report alongside three marijuana-related arrests in the Detroit Lions that year:
Lomas Brown, now an ESPN analyst, claims at least 50 percent of NFL players likely smoke marijuana, according to a report in the Detroit News
“I just don’t think you’ll be able to curb this,” Brown told the newspaper.
In Brown’s eyes, this is actually an improvement. Brown claims up to 90 percent of players league-wide smoked marijuana when he began his career with the Lions in 1985.
K2 — undetectable — popular with youths and pros
Three years ago I wrote about the dangers of synthetic drug K2, which is widely available and legal. It is sold in filling stations and malls.
K2 looks like a little packet of potpourri and all packets say ‘not for consumption’.
ThePostGame has an excellent article on the increased popularity of K2 with athletes, from high school to professional level.
K2 is smoked and mimics cannabis. It is also undetectable in drug tests:
According to the American Association of Poison Control Centers, there were 14 cases of K2 exposure in the 48 states plus the District of Columbia in 2009. In 2010, that number exploded to 2,888. Already this year, there have been nearly 1,000. In the last four months alone, 151 Navy sailors have been accused of using or possessing the drug.
The U.S. Naval Academy expelled eight midshipmen last month for using K2.
Jay Schauben, director of the Florida Poison Control Center, warns:
The possible side effects include significant hallucination, cardiac effects, seizures, rapid heart rate, hypertension, severe agitation, passing out, and panic attacks.
Anyone who takes K2 is playing Russian roulette.
Secondary school use
ThePostGame‘s article opens with a profile of an 18-year-old K2 user who committed suicide. David was a notionally all-American boy living with his mother and father. He ended his life just after attending a high school graduation party. His parents had no reason to believe their son was using any sort of unusual substance until his girlfriend spoke with them a few days later.
My aforementioned post from 2012 recapped a drowning incident involving a 19-year old high school football player in Florida who took K2 with a friend. He didn’t want to go home and the friend left him alone, never imagining the youth would drown himself in a nearby creek.
University use
Athletes at university level like K2 because drug tests cannot detect it. Consequently, it is being heavily marketed on campuses all over the US:
“We’re receiving more reports of its use in the athlete population,” says Frank Uryasz, director of the National Center of Drug-Free Sport … ‘We’re getting reports from colleges, where athletes are asking about it.”
One such report to the Drug-Free Sport hotline, from an NCAA athletic trainer, reads:
“Three student-athletes were breaking apart cigarettes, mixing it with K2, rolling it back up into papers and then smoking. One young man, who had NO past medical history, had a seizure and lost consciousness. He was found outside the dorm by campus security convulsing. His heart rate was elevated above 200 for enough time that he was admitted for 24 hours of observation … When asked why he did it: “I didn’t think it would be that much of a rush, I had no control over my body in that I could see but could not talk or speak.”
Just because they are young and fit does not mean that university athletes are immune to harm from K2, especially when combined with another substance:
Performance-enhancing drugs may add yet another layer of risk. “If you combine these products and steroids, I can’t begin to predict the negative consequences,” says Anthony Scalzo, director of toxicology at St. Louis University. “If you add these stresses to the heart, someone’s probably going to have a heart attack from it.”
NFL use
One pro explained his drug-taking strategy:
“I go straight weed in the off-season,” one NFL veteran told ThePostGame.com on condition of anonymity. “Then, in-season, when they test, I go to [K2].”
It is highly possible that within the next few years we might see unexpected deaths in fit athletes — including professionals — using K2.
And people rail against tobacco and nicotine!
42 comments
October 27, 2015 at 10:35 pm
thelastfurlong
I have often wondered if we had just been left to smoke cigarettes whether overall drug use would have been less. Kids don’t smoke anymore so there is a big hole. It’s an unrecognisable world to me. Whether it’s food, sunscreen, medicines or drugs, there is nothing allowed to be natural anymore. This is the age of chemicals.
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October 27, 2015 at 10:54 pm
churchmouse
It was a much more innocent — and calmer — world when cigarette smoking was all the rage.
We never should have started down this path. It was never as well intentioned as it seemed at the time.
When I was growing up in the US ‘squares’ smoked cigarettes. Cool people smoked dope. That started in the late 1960s. The ‘squares’ said it was a fad. It never died. One good example of this is The Cigarette Smoking Man in the X Files.
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October 28, 2015 at 10:20 am
Flyinthesky
I don’t know where you live but here in the north west there is quite a large uptake of smoking by the young.
I’m tending to think it’s the absolute demonization of it that promotes it, similarly cannabis. Unintended consequences?
As an aside as you have mentioned them skin cancer was less prevalent before sunscreen and breast cancer was before deoderants.
Sorry about the rant on your thread, I find the public’s gullibility so frustrating.
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October 28, 2015 at 10:43 am
churchmouse
Thanks!
Interesting about the noticeable smoking uptake in the North West. Tobacco will be far safer for them — certainly mentally — than highly-promoted cannabis.
I hadn’t thought about skin and breast cancer. Although I cannot comment on the latter, I do remember my mother thought sunscreen was an absurd idea. You watched your time in the sun and that was it.
On the subject of sunscreen, it blocks out vitamin D. The NHS has seen a surge in children with rickets because they are spending less time outdoors and/or covered up in sunscreen:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2543724/Rickets-soar-children-stay-indoors-Number-diagnosed-disease-quadruples-ten-years.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-200848/The-return-rickets.html
Note on Vitamin D supplements: Vitamin D3 + K2 is the best combination. D2, prescribed by the NHS, will not do any good. D3 is better and must be combined with K2 for absorption and use by the body.
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October 28, 2015 at 11:00 am
Flyinthesky
That’s why I take K2, to go with my D3.
I started to take to see if it would benefit my, own, treatment of skin cancer, the lesser variety BCC. I had a tumour the size of half a snooker ball, now gone.
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October 28, 2015 at 11:05 am
churchmouse
Yes, I also take D3 + K2.
Excellent news about your tumour! You must be relieved, to say the least! Did you go to a doctor at all or did you do your own research? Well done — shows vitamin supplements are necessary and do work!
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October 28, 2015 at 11:12 am
Flyinthesky
I don’t have a doctor.
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October 28, 2015 at 11:31 am
churchmouse
Thanks. My apologies if you’ve mentioned it before.
Good work on caring for yourself so well — better than the medical establishment could have done in this case, no doubt.
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October 28, 2015 at 3:49 pm
thelastfurlong
That’s why you have to speak up.
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October 28, 2015 at 9:45 pm
churchmouse
Is speaking up to the medical establishment going to help? I rather doubt it will for smokers. Cannabis and other drug users will probably get a free pass. ‘Oh yes, Professor Nutt says heroin and cocaine are safer than nicotine,’ they would say.
Please tell us what your experience has been with NHS GPs. That’s a sincere request, by the way. I had confidence in only one — in North West London. She was so dedicated — I mean this — that she retired in her late 30s or early 40s, probably burnt out. She reminded me of the GPs I had as a child: poked, prodded, asked intelligent questions and so on. To me, she was a saint. And her ancestry was from the West Indies. Full marks to her and her family.
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October 27, 2015 at 10:42 pm
thelastfurlong
I should have said it’s the age of altering everything with chemicals – manipulating stuff for maximum profit through modern scientific knowledge.
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October 27, 2015 at 10:50 pm
churchmouse
Understood as stated earlier — many thanks!
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October 28, 2015 at 10:35 am
Flyinthesky
What a sheltered life I must lead, I read in horror your headline.
I use K2 every day! Vitamin K2, phew.
I have a friend who has been a long term cannabis user, always a bit jittery. I think he must have used it to relax.
He’s only in his mid fifties, he’s now a mental wreck unable to work and latterly agoraphobic. It’s tragic.
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October 28, 2015 at 11:02 am
churchmouse
Thank you for more evidence that cannabis isn’t all it’s made out to be. I don’t know if schools bring in ex-addicts to speak on this subject, but they really should. Kids need to know.
Imagine a whole nation of similar cases in 10 to 20 years’ time. It could happen in the West. Hypothetically, the state steps in to manage such people’s lives, level-headed immigrants from Africa or Asia are needed to fill skills gaps, etc. We could see an epidemic of Westerners ending up like vegetables. Others will not waste time deriding all of us and our culture for having allowed it to happen. Even now, I’ve been reading quite a lot of comments from immigrants on American fora with words to that effect.
On a lighter note: K2 — funny, hadn’t thought of that! 🙂
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October 28, 2015 at 11:34 am
Flyinthesky
I reiterate, is it consequence or intent? A fractionated demos is less of a threat to governments. Sorry, sliding off topic there a bit.
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October 28, 2015 at 11:49 am
churchmouse
No, it’s not off topic at all. I’m sure this is part of the intention. Meanwhile, as Westerners are indulging, newcomers arrive to be industrious. Social and political tension will result.
Not sure if it exists but I would be most interested to see demographics of what races/cultures use drugs. I suspect it is a white person’s thing. They seem to be the only ones interested in legalising them. They should be careful what they wish for.
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October 28, 2015 at 12:24 pm
Flyinthesky
“Social and political tension will result. ” Leading to more draconian populace control inevitably, Intent?
My take on the situation is multiracialism can work, multiculturalism doesn’t.
An illustration, I have a lot of Chinese friends, I was pleased to be accepted by them. The difference with them is when they are in their homes they revert to being Chinese, food, custom, language etc.
When they are out and about they blend in, they make no demands on the host nations to accommodate their way of life so they are not seen as a threat.
There are a lot of cultures that use drugs, west Indians, south American indigenes, Afgans, Turks, it’s a long list I would think.
The difference is a lot of use is with naturally occurring varieties not hyper bred for potency and synthetic varieties.
The missing element in these areas is big money being made. Nobody looking to addict someone for profit.
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October 28, 2015 at 12:43 pm
churchmouse
I am aware of other cultures using drugs within their own indigenous practice and with their own plants.
I was speaking in a Western context only as far as demographics of drug use are concerned. I think the majority of users and legalisation supporters are white. I could be wrong.
Most Far Eastern peoples like the West, which is why they assimilate so well. Many of them are also Christian. My Chinese friends eschew Chinese New Year celebrations as not fitting in with biblical practice. That’s just an example of their affinity with the Bible, which makes them respectful of our culture and values.
One can only wonder how and if the current newcomers from Asia and Africa arriving this year will settle in. Do they like the West? How much?
On the other hand, the US has the La Raza movement which seeks to reclaim the Southwestern states. Immigration is seen as one way of restoring the former dominant culture. In that case, although most are Christian, the socio-political motive from some militants outweighs any serious affinity with American culture.
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October 28, 2015 at 12:27 pm
Flyinthesky
N.B. When they want Chinese food, they do eat a lot of strange things, they go to a Chinese shop that sells it. They don’t expect us to change ours.
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October 28, 2015 at 12:56 pm
Flyinthesky
Ah, in the western context, I’m sure you’re right.
We really have lost it haven’t we. The Frankfurt School has a lot to answer for.
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October 28, 2015 at 1:04 pm
churchmouse
As well as western Communists in Europe and the US, whites who detest their own people and culture.
I was shocked to read a book from the 1950s written by a former Communist in the US which detailed how her former party activists infiltrated the school systems in New York and parts of the Midwest in the 1930s (later edit). It’s called School of Darkness by Bella Dodd. If you are interested, you can click the link. All the entries are on my Marxism / Communism page.
I do wonder whether the same studied process unfolded in Western Europe. Not in Germany or Spain, of course, but Britain, France and maybe a few others. If so, that would explain a lot.
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October 29, 2015 at 10:06 am
Flyinthesky
I’m half way through the school of darkness ATM, you’ve given me a lot of homework. I won’t be able to play out for weeks!
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October 29, 2015 at 1:00 pm
churchmouse
😆
It’s a jawdropping read.
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October 31, 2015 at 5:02 pm
Flyinthesky
I’ve finished the book. Indeed a jaw dropping read.
Where it doesn’t address, especially modern, reality is there is not enough emphasis on the fact that socialism is the empowerment and enrichment of the, often undeserved, few at the expense of the many.
What it is difficult to get across to a socialist is unless a socialist party maintains the greater proportion of it’s supporters in inferred poverty, inequality and injustice it has no raison d’etre. It isn’t in it’s interest to actually address the problem.
They have done more, the socialist parties. to diminish the prosperity of their own core support than any other parties and still they vote for them.
Political socialism is a belief structure not an evaluated position. Even if it pokes them in the eye they still can’t see it.
The author was far smarter than I am but it took her over a decade to realise the reality…………..and in my opinion the reality is as true now as it was then.
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November 1, 2015 at 9:38 am
churchmouse
Very much agreed!
Bella Dodd wanted to go into more detail, but Bishop Sheen advised her against doing so for reasons only the two of them knew.
Yes, socialism is a belief structure — well said.
One of the reasons I excerpted the book is because that sad, everlasting reality continues to plague us, perhaps more than it did then.
On another topic, I was wondering if you would be willing to tell us more about your tumour and how you arrived at reducing it with vitamins D3 and K2? I have been thinking about it ever since you commented last week — fascinating. Thank you in advance!
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November 1, 2015 at 5:07 pm
Flyinthesky
The tumour itself was compromised by the topical application of pure tea tree oil, on subsequent research I find paraffin can have the same effect.
The tumour was the classic presentation, a minute pustule in the centre surrounded by a capillary umbrella of minute blood vessels, a spiders web with a minute spot in the middle on top of half a snooker ball if you will.
The topical application of tea tree oil had two effects, it killed the bacterial or viral cause of the tumour and destroyed the capillary blood supply to it, neat tea tree oil is quite aggressive to the skin. I have to explain this is conjecture on my part but it makes sense to me.
Moving on, the net result is a necrotic mass, no blood supply, no live and no grow, with the resulting ulceration and an unbelievable smell, a cross between smelly feet and rotting meat.
So, what do we do with this? I decided I would treat this as I would a carbuncle. I soaked it for twenty minutes a day with a 3% solution of warm food grade hydrogen peroxide, It has to be kept moist because the last thing you want is for it to dry out and heal up thereby trapping this necrotic mess under the skin, sepsis would surely follow with horrendous consequences. This process was continued for some three weeks. In the latter stages I was left with a pocket that the tumour used to reside in. I used to fill that with the peroxide solution with a syringe, no needle, until I was satisfied that there was no more necrotised residue remaining and then left it to heal.
I am left now with two small scars from the ulceration, a flat skin surface and no inflammation.
As you can appreciate this isn’t a process for the feint hearted or squeamish and as such I wouldn’t recommend it but it worked for me.
The obvious question most would ask is why didn’t you just go to the doctor, the answer is, and it’s probably just me, I don’t have one and I don’t want one, a long story. I have undergone conventional treatment for cancer with radio and chemo, that’s not for the feint hearted either, I said I wouldn’t do it again. I would die first. Notwithstanding I’m still here, conventional treatment is still a shot in the dark. The inference is they know, they don’t. They may one day but it won’t be within the constraints of consensus and accepted conventional approaches, it will be by a maverick.
Am I brave or stupid, I’m neither, just me.
I started taking D3/K2 as an immune system moderator and booster.
After some research I find that skin cancer is more prevalent in people who are D3 deficient, paradoxically sun exposure prevents skin cancer. The key is the degree and duration of exposure, getting burnt is asking for trouble whereas timed exposure is very beneficial.
I note, with research again, that D3 has a marked effect on auto immune disorders. In low latitudes M.S. is near unheard of!
The bottom line to my mind is sun avoidance and sun screen lotions, the illusion of safety in the sun, kills more people than it saves.
We live in a near perfect organism, in bygone times our bodies would naturally adapt to the prevailing sunlight, darkening over time to produce our own filtration systems. People in high latitudes have very pale skin to maximise the gathering of sunlight, people of low latitudes have darker skin to filter it.
I reiterate this is neither an endorsement or recommendation of my treatment, just an observation.
Cancer in most cases to my mind is a disproportional response by the body to an attack, an attempt by containment within a tumour. D3 can help with this. You need K2 to properly assimilate it.
Be well.
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November 1, 2015 at 10:49 pm
churchmouse
Thank you very much for this detailed explanation — greatly appreciated.
Would you consent to my using it as a guest post under your pseud?
I also would be grateful to know how you arrived at all this information which I would like to add to a guest post. Was it something you read about when you were undergoing cancer treatment?
Re D3/K2, I have had some severe auto-immune issues — thankfully, none recently — but I had a short spell in hospital (isolation ward) nearly 20 years ago and during the following few years had two periods when I was signed off work for a fortnight or three weeks each time. Not good, but, at least, my then-employer was very understanding. Afterwards, I seriously pursued dietary supplements.
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November 1, 2015 at 11:51 pm
Flyinthesky
Post away, I can’t really be of any help on the origins of the information I’m afraid, it’s more of an evolved position over many years, I must hasten to add most people think I’m crackers. It takes them so far out of their comfort zones. Needless complexity is the hurdle we all need to get over. Without it we could all be as wise and empowered as eachother.
A lot of things are easy to understand but the empowered don’t want us to know that.
The only thing of any concern to me while undergoing cancer treatment was the determination to live despite “expert” opinion to the contrary, I was given months and a secured place in the hospice.
I can’t accept anything, I have to prove it as best I can to myself.
“Believe” no-one, evaluate everything. It isn’t an easy path I can assure you. But hey that’s me.
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November 2, 2015 at 12:10 am
churchmouse
Thank you very much.
I trust very few people or expert opinions these days and appreciate your perspective. It is irksome to see so many following ‘the herd’, in reality, acting like lemmings.
I’ll post this within the next week to ten days. It’s a dramatic — and, more importantly, a successful — health DIY testimony.
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November 2, 2015 at 12:31 am
Flyinthesky
No problem, You should have a contact button on your blog.
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November 2, 2015 at 1:34 am
churchmouse
People can contact me via the comments.
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November 1, 2015 at 5:32 pm
Flyinthesky
There’s always the afterthought.
People with darker skin when moving to high latitudes will almost always be, albeit often subclinically, deficient in vitamin D and suffer consequences that won’t be attributed to it, conversely people of pale skin move to or holiday in low latitudes will burn. If people would educate themselves both scenarios can be avoided……………….but they don’t want you to do that, it’s disempowering.
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November 1, 2015 at 10:59 pm
churchmouse
One can train oneself. I advised my better half on how to do that, a little exposure at a time rather than avoiding the sun altogether. The result was, from the start (25 years ago), a pleasing moderate tan with no burning. It has continued every year without fail.
I remember years ago when an older business associate said that people with darker skin sometimes had vitamin D deficiencies in the northern hemisphere or could even get sunburn if working and living near the Equator if they were not from that part of the world. He was recalling memories of the Merchant Navy in the Second World War. (One of the fairer skinned executives said privately that he was a racist. Couldn’t be further from the truth, but there you go.)
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November 3, 2015 at 6:25 pm
Flyinthesky
Re the contact button, I can understand your perspective on this but my inference is I have nuances and possibly pictures that I may wish to share but I would be reticent to present them publically on an as is basis. What you have to bear in mind is horses for courses, a comment or presentation that would take you minutes to formulate I have to labour on for hours and wouldn’t always present as I intended.
I’d like to present my perspective in a lot of areas relating but I don’t have the expertise to necessarily present it coherently. Whereas obviously you do.
I would wish to pass it by a person who had the literary expertise and sympathetic perspective before I publish it publically.
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November 3, 2015 at 9:14 pm
churchmouse
I’ll try to do the best I can, but I would not wish to see or read anything the rest of the world is not intended to see.
If the lack of a contact point proves too much of a limitation between now and next week, please feel free to change your mind. I won’t be offended.
Yours is a dramatic story, just as Joe Vialls’s self-cure of angina was — the link to his original article is coming up in
tonightWednesdays’s (Nov.34, 2015) post and his cure will be excerpted on Friday night.I, too, have to labour for hours on every post.
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November 4, 2015 at 11:07 am
Flyinthesky
It was just a thought , a lot of bloggers have contact buttons for asides and the like.
Carry on Sir.
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November 4, 2015 at 11:11 am
churchmouse
Thank you! 😉
My plan was simply to put together a compendium of your comments with a few caveats on things like neat tea tree oil.
You referred to ‘BCC’ in one of them. I take it that means ‘basal cell carcinoma’?
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November 4, 2015 at 11:47 am
Flyinthesky
It does. The most important aspect to be conveyed is they are observations not recommended treatments.
An aside I would rather have told you privately:
My sister appeared on a satellite channel years ago discussing aspects of similar things. I won’t do detail but the net result was a threatening visit from MAFF to make sure she wasn’t practicing or promoting any of these things.
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November 4, 2015 at 11:52 am
churchmouse
What is MAFF?
I was planning to issue a disclaimer, including ‘don’t try this at home’. There is no way I would ever do what you did, nor would I ever recommend that someone do it. However, the ingenuity, bottle and success of it all amazes me.
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November 4, 2015 at 12:00 pm
Flyinthesky
Ministry of agriculture, fisheries and food. Now defunct. split up now, one of it’s successors being Defra.
She was quite alarmed at their hostility and threatening demeanour.
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November 4, 2015 at 12:03 pm
churchmouse
‘Ministry of agriculture, fisheries and food’. That’s what I thought, but it reminded me of the Second World War, so thought I’d better ask.
I am more surprised that the medical establishment didn’t say something.
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November 4, 2015 at 12:40 pm
churchmouse
Forgot to add — your story will appear week after next, as I have a Great War series coming up on the home front.
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