As I’ve explained in the previous two posts (here and here), Christian Universalism is deeply seductive to the enquiring mind.
I’m not sure what advice to give to parents out there except to get your children started early on the Bible so that they are well grounded in it by the time they reach secondary school. After that, it may be too late … for a number of years, anyway. What I noted from my own experience growing up was that the kids who knew the Bible could refute Christian Universalism — or Universal Reconciliation — straightaway, explaining why.
Just in case you are unsure of its popularity, Sola Sisters has featured a number of posts on Rob Bell’s new Love Wins and the theology behind it. Both sisters also went through a journey with New Age beliefs and practices before delving into the Bible.
Their ‘”Christian Universalism” The Hot Trend Among Christian Youth?’ is a clear warning (emphases in the original):
And why is this movement sweeping through our youth and children? I think in large part it is because Rob Bell, pastor, writer and creator of the mega-popular NOOMA videos, sowed the seeds for this thinking in his book Velvet Elvis (2005), a blockbuster favorite among Christian youth, when he wrote this:
“Heaven is full of forgiven people. Hell is full of forgiven people. Heaven is full of people God loves, whom Jesus died for. Hell is full of forgiven people God loves, whom Jesus died for.” (“Velvet Elvis,” p 146)
Parents, we are now reaping the bitter fruit of this heretical, but seductive, false teaching that has captured our beloved children and turned their hearts and minds away from biblical truth.
“I know that, after my departure, ravening wolves will enter in among you, not sparing the flock.” (Acts 20:29)
“For certain people have crept in unnoticed who long ago were designated for this condemnation, ungodly people, who pervert the grace of our God into sensuality and deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ.” (Jude 1:4)
We need to make sure that we are taking seriously our responsibilities as Christian parents. It is not the responsibility of youth pastors to biblically disciple our children. It is not the responsibility of Christian teachers at private schools. It is our responsibility.
But, this isn’t exactly Unitarian Universalism, although it is quite similar. The Sola Sisters make this point in another post, ‘Are You in RobBellion?’ (emphases mine throughout):
… what you will find if you read Bell’s new book is that Bell DOES affirm that salvation comes only through the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ. Only, in Rob Bell Land, it comes to everyone.
People accuse Bell of being a straight up Universalist. But he’s not. This is Universalism:
Universalism = All paths lead to God, no Jesus necessary.
But this is not what Rob Bell believes. Bell believes in something called Universal Reconciliation. It is also sometimes called Christian Universalism.
Universal Reconciliation = All paths lead to God, BUT Jesus is the “mechanism” (for lack of a better word) that gets everyone in. His death made atonement for ALL people. No repentance necessary. No being born again necessary.
A fine distinction, but an important one for knowing how to contend with his followers. For example, citing Scripture which points to the Cross, Jesus, etc. is not enough. Bell’s followers would agree with you on these points.
That’s a very fine distinction, indeed, and there’s not a lot in it as far as I can see. However, we are dealing with the postmodern mind which could probably argue the point until the wee small hours.
In debating with Mr Bell’s supporters — they don’t like the word ‘fans’ — you have to deal with comments like this one, no matter how balanced and gentle your correction of error:
tweedpipe: And so the witch-hunt begins, and you will make Christianity seem even more odious and unbelievable. Fortunately your extraordinary pastiche of Jesus’ teaching has nothing to do with Christianity. Unfortunately those outside the church won’t know that.
To which a Sola Sister replies:
Dear tweedpipe, hmmm your comment reminds me of a verse:
“Rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness as bad as worshiping idols.” 1 Samuel 15:23a
So according to this verse, the sinful rebellion Rob Bell has repeatedly displayed is the same as the sin of witchcraft. All right then, here’s my case for Rob Bell’s heresy/rebellion against God’s revealed truth:
– He denies the authority of Scripture
– He questions the Virgin Birth
– He teaches a panentheistic view of “God”
– He is now teaching Christian Universalism, a heretical view of universalism (that has a tasty sprinkling of Christian terminology on top of course)
This is what the Rob Bell media craze is all about. Mind you, he doubtless has a publicist, possibly courtesy of his publisher, HarperOne, part of the Murdoch empire, if I am not mistaken. In any event, this is what the Sola Sisters have to say in another post:
Time magazine has designated Rob Bell a “rock star in the church world.” The Church Report Magazine (TheChurchReport.com), ranked Bell #10 on their list of “The 50 Most Influential Christians in America.” Bell’s books and NOOMA videos sell by the thousands. The Chicago Sun Times wrote an article comparing Bell’s influence to that of Billy Graham (“The Next Billy Graham?“).
Heads up, Christian parents: even if you have never heard of Rob Bell before, just ask your kids. Because I can almost guarantee you that even if they haven’t read his books or watched his NOOMA videos, their friends have. And why is this frightening? Because Rob Bell is a big, big, BIG leader in a new movement sweeping through our young people today called “Christian Universalism.“ … with leaders like Rob Bell leading the way, many of today’s church-going youth have slowly been seduced into believing this false teaching, usually using Colossians 1:19-20 (out of context, of course) as their “proof-text.” To complicate matters further, the particular “flavor” of Universalism that Rob Bell is dishing up is called “Universal Reconciliation.” Universal Reconciliation is an odd twist on straight up Universalism (“All paths lead to God”), in that it is a belief which is “opposed to ideas such as everlasting torment in Hell, but may also include a period of finite punishment similar to a state of purgatory.”
That said, I shall continue with excerpts from the Revd Kevin De Young’s 21-page review of Bell’s latest book, Love Wins. You can find the following in the second section, ‘Where to Begin?’ (pages 5 – 8 of the PDF):
Love Wins is such a departure from historic Christianity, that there’s no easy way to tackle it. You can’t point to two or three main problems or three or four exegetical missteps. This is a markedly different telling of the gospel from start to finish. To fully engage the material would require not only deconstruction, but a full reconstruction of orthodoxy theology. A book review, however, is not the place to build a systematic theology ...
1. Not Your Grandmother’s Christianity
Perhaps the best place to start is to show that Bell routinely disparages the faith of traditional evangelicalism.
A staggering number of people have been taught that a select few Christians will spend forever in a peaceful, joyous place called heaven while the rest of humanity spends forever in torment and punishment in hell with no chance for anything better. It’s been clearly communicated to many that this belief is a central truth of the Christian faith and to reject it is, in essence, to reject Jesus. This is misguided, toxic, and ultimately subverts the contagious spread of Jesus’ message of love, peace, forgiveness and joy that our world desperately needs to hear. (viii) …
Later, Bell allows that traditionalists can believe their story of heaven and hell, but “it isn’t a very good story” (110). Traditional Christians have inferior news to share because in their story so many people end up in hell. “That’s why the Christians who talk the most about going to heaven while everybody else goes to hell don’t throw very good parties” (179). Not only are they bad at parties, traditionalists are bad at art: “An entrance understanding of the gospel rarely creates good art. Or innovation. Or a number of other things. It’s a cheap view of the world because it’s a cheap view of God. It’s a shriveled imagination” (180). So much for finding beauty or delight in Western civilization. I’ll leave it to the art critics and the partygoers to determine if it’s true that, second to blondes, universalists have more fun.
And yet, he believes it’s important to embrace past understanding of the faith, even if people like him were shaped by a certain environment and reared in certain experiences that can be easily deconstructed (e.g., praying the sinner’s prayer) (193–95) … Much of Bell’s polemic fails if there is a core of apostolic teaching that we are called, not just to embrace as part of our journey, but to protect from deviation and defend against false teaching (Acts 20:29–31).
2. Historical Problems
Bell maintains he is not saying anything new. And that’s right. The problem is he makes it sound like his everyone-ends-up-restored-and-reconciled-to-God theology is smack dab in the center of the Christian tradition.
And so, beginning with the early church, there is a long tradition of Christians who believe that God will ultimately restore everything and everybody, because Jesus says in Matthew 19 that there will be a “renewal of all things,” Peter says in Acts 3 that Jesus will “restore everything,” and Paul says in Colossians 1 that through Christ “God was pleased to. . . .reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven.” (107, ellipsis in original)
It’s important to Bell that he falls within the “deep, wide, diverse stream” of “historic, orthodox Christian faith” (ix-x). Therefore, he argues that “at the center of the Christian tradition since the first church has been the insistence that history is not tragic, hell is not forever, and love, in the end, wins” (109) …
Universalism (though in a different form than Bell’s and for different reasons) has been present in the church since Origen, but it was never in the center of the tradition … Whatever Origen’s influence on the Cappadocian fathers (and it was considerable), Origen’s views were later refuted by Augustine and … condemned in 543 in a council at Constantinople.
Bell also mentions Jerome, Basil, and Augustine because they claimed many people in their day believed in the ultimate reconciliation of all people to God (107). But listing all the heavyweights who took time to refute the position you are now espousing is not a point in your favor. Most egregiously, Bell calls on Martin Luther in support of post-mortem salvation (106). But as Carl Trueman has pointed out, anyone familiar with Luther’s creedal statements and overall writing, not to mention the actual quotation in question, will quickly see that Luther is not on Bell’s side. Universalism has been around a long time. But so has every other heresy. Arius rejected the full deity of Christ and many people followed him. This hardly makes Arianism part of the wide, diverse stream of Christian orthodoxy. Every point of Christian doctrine has been contested, but some have been deemed heterodox. Universalism, traditionally, was considered one of those points. True, many recent liberal theologians have argued for versions of universalism—and this is where Bell stands, not in the center of the historic Christian tradition.
More from Mr De Young tomorrow
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April 22, 2011 at 2:52 am
dick stone
First of all, Christian Universalism is not defined as “all paths lead to god”, that definition belongs to Pluralism. Universalism generally means “all are saved through Christ”, even those who happen to follow other religions, they just don’t know it. Quite different!
Secondly, Origen was not condemned for teaching Universalism, he was condemned for teaching the pre-existence of souls. Many of the Church Fathers before him supported some form of Universalism: http://www.tentmaker.org/Quotes/churchfathersquotes.htm
And, needless to say (though Exclusivists will deny it and rationalize it away), Scripture supports Universal Reconciliation. There are many passages both OT and NT.
Genesis 28: 14, Psalm 22:27, Psalm 65:4, Psalms 66:3-4, Psalms 86:9, Psalms 145:9-16, Isaiah 25;6-8, Isaiah 53:5-6, John 1:29b, John 2:2, John 12:32, John 12:47, Romans 5:6, Romans 5:18, 1 Corinthians 15:22, 2 Cor. 5:14, 2 Corinthians 5:l9, Philippians 2:10-11, Colossians 1:20, 1Timothy 2:4-6, 1 Timothy 4:10, Hebrews 2:9, 2 Peter 2:1, 2 Peter 3:9, 1 John 4:14, 1 John 2:2, Rev. 5:13, Revelation 7:9-10
I am not a strict Universalist in that I believe our omnipotent God has the wisdom and authority to deny anyone he chooses from relationship with Him for whatever reason. However, Christ saved all of creation. It was a universe changing act, not a selective act that only a few can participate in. Salvation is by grace alone. There is nothing we can do to earn it. Praying the “sinners prayer” means we have to do something. Christ did it all, we do nothing to achieve salvation. It is done, once for all. 1 Peter 3:18.
The Good News that Exclusivists teach is in fact “Bad News” for the billions that don’t know about or have rejected Jesus. It is a Gospel that ultimately makes God a huge failure. Even all the false gods through the millennia never had such a bad record as that. Yahweh would have been a puny god in the past. It also makes a liar out of God. He said that he will reconcile “all things” unto Himself, but Exclusivists have Him reconciling “a small portion of all things” unto Himself. Exclusivists are so determined that only a few will be saved, they rationalize very explicit passages of Scripture that teach Universal Reconciliation. For decades I too believed that I was one of the Elect and I would be one of the Chosen (in that I chose to follow Jesus and therefore I chose salvation and eternity with Him. Again, by my work, not by Jesus’.). But slowly, the blinders have fallen away, the ego (that craves to be a part of a select, favoured group) has lowered its ugly head and the joyous truth that Christ has redeemed all of Creation has freed my mind and heart from the destructive doctrine of Exclusivism.
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April 22, 2011 at 8:04 pm
churchmouse
You are welcome to your opinion, Mr Stone, but my previous quotations from the Bible stand:
“Enter by the narrow gate. For the gate is wide and the way is easy that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many. (Matthew 7:13)
41“Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42For I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink, 43I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not clothe me, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.’ 44Then they also will answer, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to you?’ 45Then he will answer them, saying, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me.’ 46And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.” (Matthew 25:41-46)
18And Jesus came and said to them, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19 Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age.” (Matthew 28:18-20)
14Now after John was arrested, Jesus came into Galilee, proclaiming the gospel of God, 15and saying, “The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe in the gospel.” (Mark 1:14-15)
42“Whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him if a great millstone were hung around his neck and he were thrown into the sea. 43 And if your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life crippled than with two hands to go to hell, to the unquenchable fire. (Mark 9:42-43)
15And he said to them, “Go into all the world and proclaim the gospel to the whole creation. 16 Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned. (Mark 16:15-16)
1There were some present at that very time who told him about the Galileans whose blood Pilate had mingled with their sacrifices. 2And he answered them, “Do you think that these Galileans were worse sinners than all the other Galileans, because they suffered in this way? 3No, I tell you; but unless you repent, you will all likewise perish. 4Or those eighteen on whom the tower in Siloam fell and killed them: do you think that they were worse offenders than all the others who lived in Jerusalem? 5No, I tell you; but unless you repent, you will all likewise perish.” (Luke 13:1-5)
And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. (John 1:14)
Jesus answered him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God.” (John 3:3)
Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life; whoever does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him. (John 3:36)
I told you that you would die in your sins, for unless you believe that I am he you will die in your sins.” (John 8:24)
I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture. (John 10:9)
Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: (John 11:25)
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. (John 14:6)
11This Jesus is the stone that was rejected by you, the builders, which has become the cornerstone. 12And there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.” (Acts 4:11-12)
The times of ignorance God overlooked, but now he commands all people everywhere to repent. (Acts 17:30)
28And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done. 29They were filled with all manner of unrighteousness, evil, covetousness, malice. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, maliciousness. They are gossips, 30slanderers, haters of God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, 31foolish, faithless, heartless, ruthless. 32Though they know God’s decree that those who practice such things deserve to die, they not only do them but give approval to those who practice them. (Romans 1:28-32)
For when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do what the law requires, they are a law to themselves, even though they do not have the law. (Romans 2:14)
19Now we know that whatever the law says it speaks to those who are under the law, so that every mouth may be stopped, and the whole world may be held accountable to God. 20For by works of the law no human being will be justified in his sight, since through the law comes knowledge of sin. (Romans 3:19-20)
For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. (Romans 6:23)
8But what does it say? “The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart” (that is, the word of faith that we proclaim); 9because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. (Romans 10:8-9)
9 Know you not that the unjust shall not possess the kingdom of God? Do not err: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, 10 Nor the effeminate, nor liers with mankind, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor railers, nor extortioners, shall possess the kingdom of God. (1 Cor. 6:9-10)
1Now I would remind you, brothers, of the gospel I preached to you, which you received, in which you stand, 2and by which you are being saved, if you hold fast to the word I preached to you— unless you believed in vain. (1 Corinthians 15:1-2)
5For you may be sure of this, that everyone who is sexually immoral or impure, or who is covetous (that is, an idolater), has no inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God. 6 Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these things the wrath of God comes upon(F) the sons of disobedience. 7Therefore do not become partners with them; (Ephesians 5:5-7)
1Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons, (1 Timothy 4:1)
16 Keep a close watch on yourself and on the teaching. Persist in this, for by so doing you will save both yourself and your hearers. (1 Timothy 4:16)
2preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, and exhort, with complete patience and teaching. 3) For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, 4and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths. (2 Timothy 4:2-4)
It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. (Hebrews 10:31)
Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life. (1 John 5:12)
And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, [even] in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life. (1 John 5:20)
7just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding cities, which likewise indulged in sexual immorality and pursued unnatural desire, serve as an example by undergoing a punishment of eternal fire. (Jude 1:7)
3 Remember, then, what you received and heard. Keep it, and repent. If you will not wake up, I will come like a thief, and you will not know at what hour I will come against you. (Revelation 3:3)
16So, because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of my mouth. (Revelation 3:16)
From his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations, and he will rule them with a rod of iron. He will tread the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God the Almighty. (Revelation 19:15)
8 But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.” (Revelation 21:8)
11Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. From his presence earth and sky fled away, and no place was found for them. 12And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Then another book was opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, according to what they had done. (Revelation 20:11-12)
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November 7, 2011 at 5:11 pm
hopeful
If you claim to follow Christ and do not at least hope and pray for universal reconciliation then I believe you are missing the point.
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November 7, 2011 at 6:01 pm
churchmouse
This isn’t about universal reconciliation — it is about everyone going to share eternal life with our Lord Jesus Christ. If that’s true, then there is no point to Christianity.
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February 22, 2012 at 12:43 pm
truth
It’s interesting how fake Christians who don’t know what they are talking about refute a subject they don’t understand. Ya have your kids read a translation of the Bible. Tell them it is a translation. Tell them to look up the etomology of the word hell in any dictionary. Hint it is a 15th century english word. Then ask your children why the vast majority of church fathers for the first 5 centuries were Universalists themselves. When your children can answer those questions they will be smarter than you.
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February 22, 2012 at 12:49 pm
churchmouse
Eastern Orthodox church fathers might have been. Any others would have actually studied Scripture.
There are many New Testament verses — as I’ve included in other Rob Bell posts — including Jesus’s words, which do not point to universal salvation at all.
Read the Bible and find out. Not all will be saved.
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April 22, 2012 at 11:39 am
tony diaz
Salvation (soteria, def: healed made whole) redemption (apolutrosis, def: ransom price paid). not all will be healed in this life unless they believe but the ransom price has been paid. Life is hell for the believer who thinks all these unbelieving people around them they love are going to hell. Hell is concurrent not deferred meaning the exclusive gospel is a currently ongoing outer darkness, i.e. hell. The church needs to “get saved”, she doesnt know Jesus she hardly knows about Him and she thinks He is an idea. If all you Hell fearing Christians believed in Hell why aren’t you doing more about it, eh?
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April 22, 2012 at 8:16 pm
churchmouse
Some of us are doing our best.
Not so sure ‘life is hell’ for all believers — some of us are merely pointing out Bell’s error.
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