The site 4chan has had several AMAs (Ask Me Anything) threads featuring one or more agents going loosely by the name FBI Anon.
He — or they — are all working on ‘the Clinton case’.
What follows over the next few posts are FBI Anon’s comments from the following threads:
- July 2 (before either the Republican or Democratic National Conventions and just after Loretta Lynch and Bill Clinton had their conversation on her plane) — today’s focus
- September 25 (just before the first debate) — future post
- October 17 (the most recent) — future post
A language alert applies to all three. However, what FBI Anon says cannot be completely discounted, even if some disinformation — perhaps 10% — is mixed in. The agent includes the disinformation in order to keep his job. It is unlikely that it pertains to big ticket topics, but smaller ones.
A number of 4chan participants do not believe what FBI Anon says, but the guys at The_Donald are confident that what he says is mostly accurate and should be noted.
N.B.: After this, you will never think of the Democratic Party or the Clintons or their foundation in the same way again. When I first read these threads, I thought about them for days afterward. I am presenting this information to you to help you and yours make an informed decision on November 8.
FBI Anon asks the 4chan folks to spread the information. I found various threads on The_Donald about him. This one lists all the 4chan FBI threads.
I shall do my best to divide everything up by topic. I have edited out the foul language and corrected some spelling and grammatical errors. Emphases mine below.
Reference is made below to a SAP — Special Access Program — which FBI Anon defined as follows (July):
A Special Access Program is an intelligence program classified above top-secret. They are held on closed servers at secret locations. The only way to get one is if you are specifically read on to a program, have a need to know, then you must physically go to a location and pass through several layers of security to even look at the program. A good example in non-classified terms would be the locations and operations of our intelligence operatives around the globe, or our missile silo locations.
FBI Anon introduction
I am a person with intimate knowledge of the inner workings of the Clinton case. I will answer as many questions as I can without giving too much away.
Why FBI Anon went to 4chan in July
Sent home, awaiting word about the [chaos] Lynch just caused.
Chances of Hillary Clinton being indicted or brought to justice
There is intense pressure for us not to do so. I am posting from a position of near anonymity and enough plausible deniability to evade prosecution, as we have all been given gag orders.
There is enough for her and the entire government to be brought down. People do not realize how enormous this whole situation actually is. Whether she will be or not depends on how much info about others involved gets out, and there are a lot of people involved.
She had SAP level programs on her server, which if made public, would literally cause an uprising and possibly foreign declarations of war.
There already is enough to indict. Comey has been trying to stall because he does not want to face the Clinton Machine, as well as the rest of Washington D.C. But this case would explode into a million other cases if fully brought to light, and then we would be one agency competing against the entire government and a hoard of other interests. It is a very tense and uncomfortable position.
What Lynch is saying is she will accept whatever they do and make her determination as she will. Nothing about her responsibilities has changed, she is simply trying to keep her hide intact.
We have no power to prosecute, we simply hand over the data to the DOJ for them to prosecute. And we do not have the authority to hand over all of the data because of its sensitivity. And some of the data will lead into other cases of corruption.
Making a recommendation is not the same as actually prosecuting. We only say “here is the data, you need to get XYZ” and then the DOJ acts.
We have our hands tied. My message to you and everyone on this board is do not get distracted by Clinton’s e-mails. Focus on the Foundation. All of the nightmarish truth is there. The e-mails will pale in comparison.
SAPs
All I can tell you about the SAPs is HRC had them, and she did not have proper authority to have any of them. They were leaked to her by someone, and she did sell them to overseas donors. Possessing them alone makes her guilty of treason.
Sec. [of State] CAN have access. That does not mean he/she WILL. SAP is granted on a need to know basis, and HRC did not have any need to know any of the programs on her server.
Public knowledge of issues influencing continued investigation
Before the Clinton-Lynch meeting, I would have said 0%. Now it looks more likely because the public now sees the Clintons trying to cover their asses. More questions will add pressure for the investigation to continue.
The Clinton Foundation (CF)
The real point of interest is the Clinton Foundation, not the e-mail server. We received the server from Benghazi, then from the server we found data on the CF. Then we realized the situation is much worse than previously thought.
Killing HRC would not cause this problem to go away. The problem is with the Clinton Foundation as I mentioned, which you should just imagine as a massive spider web of connections and money laundering implicating hundreds of high-level people. Though I do not have a high opinion of Hillary, she is just a piece -albeit a big piece – of this massive [horrible situation].
Obama is loosely tied to the CF, but much more tied in with the same people who donate to the CF.
BC likely wanted LL to focus on the e-mail server and shy away from prosecuting the foundation.
[The Foundation] Sold influence, intel, favors, and people to anyone willing to pay.
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The people under the magnifying glass do have an affinity for children.
Pedophiles and sex traffickers everywhere. Many politicians trade girls like cattle.
Why no one else is brought to justice
The DOJ is most likely looking to save itself. Find everyone involved in the Clinton Foundation, from its donors to its Board of Directors, and imagine they are all implicated.
My opinion is the entire government is guilty of treason, which is why HRC’s death would not cease the investigation or prevent further scandals. Many, many people are involved.
If we recommend, we literally hand over documentation implying the entire government is involved in treason at the highest levels and everyone is about to duck and cover, as well as some sensitive details of SAPs which would obliterate national security.
[Then again] If we do not recommend, it will look like a cover-up and Trump will use the perception to bolster his message. I did work in PsyOps once, and Trump’s use of confirmation bias is legendary.
We could do it tomorrow if we wanted. [But …] There are too many political players involved.
Your moral inclinations may look good on the internet, but in real life the situation is complicated. You cannot possibly ask the entire government to prosecute itself. Lynch has also given to the Foundation, and has many ties to many people she should not. Remember that Bill appointed her. She is a great prosecutor, but she did not get where she is by simply being good at her job.
The problem is with the entire government. HRC is one component of that government.
… you do not have the breadth of info that I have that would make your eyes fall out of your skull if you knew what all was going on.
George Soros
Soros is at the heart of all of this.
He is the kingpin.
Ideologue. Believes he and his cohorts are the answer to ending all world wars. Todd Huizinga’s book The New Totalitarian Temptation reveals the mindset quite adequately.
Soros funds, instructs, and influences every layer of US government, right down to the tax code.
Agents fearing for their lives, including Clinton retaliation against them
We are all worried about that.
My bosses have the benefit of being in the limelight. Their disappearances or silences would be accompanied by questions. Mine would not.
I do not want to post any information about me or where I am, because if any hint got out that I posted anything, I would be fired and blacklisted. Possibly killed.
Does Hillary kill people?
People have a way of dying around her.
Hillary and Obama’s relationship
Obama and HRC do hate each other. HRC hates black people and Obama dislikes recklessness. As far as the investigation, some details are correct. As to the outcome, no one knows.
The Obamas
Obama is a liberal atheist who is willingly associated with the Muslim Brotherhood. Stephen Coughlin’s book, while not totally accurate, does shine light in the right direction.
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Michelle is a woman.
Who else has the emails?
Foreign powers are in possession of some of the documents we have analyzed, because they were hacked from the Clinton server. Trump has some files as well, and likely plans to leak them and use them to his advantage soon.
The leaks will have to be made in a non-transparent fashion.
What about Russia?
I am not sure, but some of my war strategy buddies are estimating a high probability that Russia will leak all of the info they have to the world, since Clinton wants to go to war with them and they have no desire to be in conflict with the US.
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Russia wants Ukraine back, and then they want to be left … alone to invest. Russia is more a paragon of freedom and nationalism than any other country.
Other foreign relations implications
[HRC responsible for selling] Weapons, favors, intelligence, and people.
It benefits her because her donors have paid for it.
Canada has no business telling us how to run intel. Trudeau makes you [Canadians] all look like fools, and already his intel departments are coming to us for help doing … everything.
Germany is not involved. Merkel likes HRC though.
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Get rid of Trudeau. He has no experience managing or running a country.
Mexico is actively trying to undermine the US.
The media
Mainstream media is [dire]. Who cares what they say. They are attempting to distract by putting the focus on HRC’s emails and not the Foundation.
If Hillary wins
We will go to war with Russia and possibly China if she wins.
Donald Trump
The entire government is corrupt. No one is clean, not even Trump.
Trump has donated to the Clinton Foundation in the past, though for fairly innocuous things like building permits and such. He is smart, so his tracks are covered well. But if any prosecutor wants to go very in-depth Trump would be brought on bribery charges. He could easily get out of them, but he would be charged nonetheless.
I do not know of Trump’s record, but from the case he definitely knew to limit his exposure and make it only look like a donation.
If Trump wins, HRC will be prosecuted.
Trump has very good people advising and leaking to him.
Trump is not a Clinton plant. He believes they are disgusting animals.
[Sidney] Blumenthal is attempting to get dirt on and strategize against Trump.
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I support Trump. He is a good candidate. Not perfect, but good. I used to work in PsyOps, and Trump’s campaign is exactly how the textbooks train. It will be studied by agents forever.
Most of us are pro-Trump.
HRC hates that Trump makes the media profitable, so they have to keep covering him.
The choices
I will put it to you this way: You have three choices,
A) turn over all of the information to the DOJ, make public a recommendation, the truth comes out, the entire world realizes how much the US is meddling in foreign affairs and we go to war, the civilian population realizes how much foreign money influences our government, and a civil war begins.
B) You cherry-pick the data to implicate the people already in the eye of public opinion, so the chips fall on the heads of a select few and the whole system does not crash.
C) you do nothing and watch the unstable political climate to gauge how you will respond.
I am confident if Trump wins she will be going to jail.
… most of us are of the opinion that HRC will not be president, and having Trump in office makes our job that much easier. But right now we have to carefully wade through the mud.
A is not going to happen.
Revolutions are much longer and more violent than you think. And if a civil war breaks out, foreign powers will immediately get involved, prolonging any conflict.
[In general] People can integrate if done in a healthy and constructive way. Not by force.
The agents and 4chan (/pol/ — political threads)
The FBI is rather fond of /pol/. We study more than we investigate.
/pol/ is an amalgamation of minds from various geographic and demographic factions. We study very intensely the ideas which emanate and gain prominence on the board, as well as which ideas other organizations try to promote which ultimately get defeated (JIDF, for example, is highly unsuccessful as making /pol/ pro-israel). And most of us just enjoy the posts in general. We like to see how close to the truth everyone is. And we occasionally let our true nature slip.
Alex Jones
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Alex Jones is a useful idiot. He does believe what he says, though.
What the public can do
Post about HRC everywhere you can. Focus on the Foundation. Do not let her e-mail server be the sole focus of media attention. Follow the Foundation. Her e-mails are a small bite compared to the CF.
Promote and discuss it everywhere. Ask questions. Read the news on it. Post articles everywhere. Pirate Jerome Corsi’s book (so people can’t say I am shilling) because he does have some things right.
If you dig hard into the foundation and make it the sole point of your focus, you will remember this thread when the truth is revealed.
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We do not live in a democracy, we live in a republic. There is a lot of greatness in America, and there is still plenty to love. Society and culture are dependent on man. You are in control of society, not the other way around.
Tomorrow: more FBI Anon
15 comments
November 3, 2016 at 12:42 am
sunnydaysall
Wow! I have been trying to wrap my head around this for the past 2 days… I just pray that there are more “white hats” than “black hats” in the Intelligence Community because this could all go south in a heartbeat!!
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November 3, 2016 at 11:28 am
churchmouse
It is highly disturbing, isn’t it?
Yes, there are more white hats, but dozens of their resignation letters are currently on Comey’s desk! I heard an interview with a retired intelligence community man last night on the Alex Jones Show who said this is so serious it’s actually causing problems with Comey’s marriage. His wife has threatened divorce unless he investigates this thoroughly.
Forgot to add that the guys at The_Donald are investigating the Clinton Foundation and child trafficking first so they can get something to the alt-right as well as Big Media before the election. They are working on the assumption that child trafficking will have the most resonance with voters. It also appears the least partisan.
There are tons of emails they are sifting through right now. Representative threads (language alert) follow. If the exchange in one of these appears a bit scrappy, it is because they are piecing together information as accurately as they can:
https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/5auvi5/we_did_it_biggest_scandal_ever_about_to_break/
https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/5aupnh/breaking_i_believe_i_have_connected_a_convicted/
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November 3, 2016 at 11:59 pm
sunnydaysall
My prayers go out for our country and for those who are working diligently to try and save her!
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November 5, 2016 at 2:24 pm
churchmouse
Indeed, sunnydaysall!
I have never prayed so frequently as I have the past few months.
This woman must not be allowed into the White House.
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November 3, 2016 at 6:52 am
sackersonwp
Extraordinary. Of course there is always a worry about quality of information when you get claims from an anonymous source.
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November 3, 2016 at 11:23 am
churchmouse
Sure, but The_Donald contributors think that 90% of what he says is true. Obviously, it can’t be 100% true, because the guy would lose his job. So what is the 10%? Smaller items. Big picture is no doubt accurate.
I have no problem believing this. Remember the Clinton scandals from the 1990s? The mysterious death of Vince Foster? They had a load of things going on in Arkansas from the 1970s through the 1980s, too. They’re very good at leaving a clean trail.
Investigative reporter and author Jerome Corsi has been looking into the Clintons for some time. Here’s an article about what he thinks now. Excerpts follow:
http://www.wnd.com/2016/11/biggest-scandal-in-u-s-history-about-to-break/
‘Corsi believes this story is about to explode, as he believes Clinton and Abedin moved all the emails in preparation for a pay-to-play scheme for access to her emails.
‘In addition, a Tuesday release from WikiLeaks shows a March 3, 2015, email from Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta to former Clinton State Department Chief of Staff Cheryl Mills urging a quick dispatching of unidentified emails.
‘“On another matter … we are going to have to dump all those emails so better to do so sooner than later,” wrote Podesta.
‘“This is a crime scheme that stinks,” Corsi said. “I think this WikiLeaks and this cache of 600,000 emails from the State Department, plus the other documentation we’ve gotten over time, I think this is going to be the biggest scandal in U.S. history, and it’s just about to break.”’
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November 3, 2016 at 12:31 pm
churchmouse
But wait, there’s more. Excerpts follow:
‘All of the following information was given to us by our insiders who have specific first-hand knowledge of the Hillary Clinton email scandal. It seems that things are about to heat up. We are told that of the 662,871 emails lifted from Anthony Weiner’s computer, 11,112 emails are Huma Abedin’s… and pay to play – including Saudis and Israelis. Meaning Huma was the one Hillary USED to communicate with foreign leaders via email for inside information and deals via Huma’s computer.
‘It has been established through many avenues, but mainly through Wikileaks, that the Clinton Foundation was just a farce set up in order to perform pay-to-play games with multiple entities, including foreign nations. Pay-to-play nations include: Israel, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Qatar, Kazakhstan, and the Ukraine.
‘Furthermore, we are told by one of our insiders that one email unequivocally confirms ISIS was created by CIA and Israeli Secret Intelligence Service, with help from Joe Lieberman, John McCain, and Lindsey Graham!
‘An NYPD insider said the content they viewed did include State Department TOP SECRET emails. One file was called “Life Insurance”. A second file was titled “DNC Nuclear Arsenal“.
‘A third file I’m sure Hillary definitely DOES NOT want released was a file labeled “Intimate”… according to this NYPD insider, this file contained X-rated photos of Huma and Hillary with a TEENAGER.’
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November 3, 2016 at 12:18 pm
churchmouse
Bret Baier (Fox News), November 2:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/11/02/fbi_sources_tell_fox_news_indictment_likely_in_clinton_foundation_case.html
Excerpts, emphases mine:
‘BRET BAIER: Breaking news tonight — two separate sources with intimate knowledge of the FBI investigations into the Clinton emails and the Clinton Foundation tell Fox the following:
‘The investigation looking into possible pay-for-play interaction between Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and the Foundation has been going on for more than a year. Led by the white collar crime division, public corruption branch of the criminal investigative division of the FBI.
‘The Clinton Foundation investigation is a, quote, “very high priority.” Agents have interviewed and reinterviewed multiple people about the Foundation case, and even before the WikiLeaks dumps, agents say they have collected a great deal of evidence. Pressed on that, one sources said, quote, “a lot of it,” and “there is an avalanche of new information coming every day.”
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‘Meantime, the classified e-mail investigation is being run by the National Security division of the FBI. They are currently combing through former Democratic Congressman Anthony Wiener’s laptop and have found e-mails that they believe came from Hillary Clinton’s server that appear to be new, as in not duplicates.’
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November 3, 2016 at 3:51 pm
Flyinthesky.
Hi CM,
What an awful mess, there’ll be little difference here or the eu mind. Can this be resolved before the election? Not posting a lot at the moment, other issues.
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November 5, 2016 at 2:23 pm
churchmouse
Thanks, Flyinthesky, for commenting!
I have been concerned by your long absence. ‘Other issues’: I hope that you are merely busy and that nothing worrisome is going on. I’ll be thinking of you and hope all is resolved soon. I do enjoy your comments.
As to any resolution of this ‘mess’, no, nothing much can be done before the election. However, what all this does do is — one hopes — depress Hillary’s votes on Tuesday. This woman cannot — must not — be in charge of the Free World.
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November 5, 2016 at 3:42 pm
Flyinthesky.
Thanks CM,
Stage four worrisome I’m afraid.
On a brighter note Clintons credibility is going down on a hourly basis with Wikileaks etc. There’s a good chance we”ll get the Donald I think.
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November 5, 2016 at 10:19 pm
churchmouse
I am so sorry about your ‘stage four worrisome’. Like it or not, I will pray for you and yours. If you don’t like that, consider it channelling positive thoughts your way.
I very much hope you are right about Hillary’s ‘credibility going down on an hourly basis’. [To my American and overseas readers, Flyinthesky’s thoughts come from a Briton no less!]
Am hoping you are right in getting the Donald. MAGA!
Flyinthesky, please check in when you can.
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November 3, 2016 at 10:01 pm
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